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CRGO lamination permeability and B–H curve: how to interpret the data

If you buy CRGO lamination stacks or sign off transformer core designs, you probably spend more time than you want looking at B–H curves and “µ” tables. The basics are clear. The tricky part is turning datasheet curves into purchasing decisions and practical margins.

This guide keeps the theory short and stays close to what actually changes when you choose one lamination stack over another.


1. Where the B–H curve on the CRGO datasheet really comes from

Most CRGO B–H and permeability numbers you see in lamination offers come from:

  • Strip samples tested in an Epstein frame according to IEC / JIS / ASTM standards
  • Longitudinal (rolling) direction only
  • Stress-relief annealed before measurement
  • One or two fixed flux densities, usually 1.5 T and/or 1.7 T, at 50 or 60 Hz

POSCO, JFE, Nippon Steel and others state exactly this in their catalogs: core loss and induction are measured after stress-relief annealing, mainly along the rolling direction, and typically quoted as W15/50 or W17/50 (loss at 1.5 T or 1.7 T, 50 Hz).

So the “smooth” B–H curve you see is:

  • One-dimensional (no corners, no joints)
  • Perfect grain alignment
  • No punching burrs
  • No clamping pressure, no tank stresses
  • No gaps except the idealized Epstein joints

Suitable for comparing steels. Not the same as your stacked core.


2. CRGO permeability: material µ vs stack µ

Design tools usually talk about material relative permeability µr or initial permeability. Datasheets show either:

  • µ at a given H (e.g., at 800 A/m)
  • Or an “effective” µ between two points on the B–H curve

Hi-B grades can show µ values well above 30 000 in the rolling direction.

But what you actually build is a stack:

  • Each sheet carries an insulating coating
  • You have step-lap or mitred joints
  • There are air gaps between packets
  • Punching and bending add stress
  • Stacking factor settles somewhere around 95–97 %, sometimes less if burr control is poor

That means the effective µ of the lamination stack is always lower than the material µ. How much lower depends on:

  • Coating thickness and consistency
  • Stack pressure
  • Joint design (step-lap vs butt)
  • Cutting and annealing practice
  • Whether grain direction is respected at every limb and yoke

If you compare suppliers only on catalog µ, you are comparing something you will never actually see in operation.


Magnetic test bench in lab

3. How to actually read the B–H curve when you choose CRGO lamination stacks

Engineers know the B–H curve is just B versus H with hysteresis. The question here is: which parts of that curve should drive your lamination purchase?

Use this as a quick reading order.

3.1 Check the test point and notation first

  • W15/50 = core loss at 1.5 T, 50 Hz
  • W17/50 = core loss at 1.7 T, 50 Hz

If one supplier quotes W15/50 and another W17/50, or mixes 50 Hz and 60 Hz, you cannot compare their curves directly. Decide on one reference condition (often 1.5 T, 50 Hz for distribution transformers) and ask everyone to supply data for that point.

Also check:

  • Whether values are “maximum guaranteed” or “typical”
  • Whether the curve is before or after stress-relief anneal
  • Whether it is longitudinal, transverse, or a mix of both directions

Without this, the prettiest B–H plot tells you very little.

3.2 Align the curve with your actual operating B

Most modern Hi-B CRGO grades operate around 1.7–1.9 T in the rolling direction, with core losses around 0.7–1.0 W/kg at 1.5 T, 50 Hz for thinner gauges (0.23–0.27 mm).

Your design might be at:

  • 1.5–1.6 T for conservative distribution designs
  • 1.7–1.8 T in more compact power transformers
  • Local peaks higher at joints

When you look at a B–H curve:

  1. Mark your nominal B on the curve.
  2. See what H the material needs at that point.
  3. Convert that H to magnetizing current and compare against your no-load current budget.

If your operating B sits on the very steep part of the curve, you are betting on tight manufacturing control. Some projects can accept that bet. Many utility specs cannot.

3.3 Watch the hysteresis loop width, not just single µ numbers

The area inside the B–H loop ties directly to hysteresis loss. Larger area, higher core loss at the same B and frequency.

Two steels can have similar µ at 1.7 T but very different loop shapes:

  • Narrow loop: lower hysteresis loss, lower no-load loss
  • Wide loop: more loss, more heating for the same flux

When you only see µ or a few loss numbers, ask the supplier for:

  • A family of B–H loops at different peak B
  • Or at least loss vs B curves, not just two fixed points

It is the shape that tells you about behavior during inrush, over-excitation and off-frequency operation, not one permeability figure.


4. Typical CRGO datasheet numbers vs stack reality

Here is a compact way to read the common numbers buyers and engineers debate over.

Table 1 – Reading CRGO B–H and permeability data for lamination stack decisions

Datasheet fieldTypical Hi-B CRGO range*What it really means in a lamination stackHow purchasing should read it
Thickness0.23–0.30 mmThinner = lower eddy loss but more sheets and more cutting effortPrice jump from 0.30 to 0.23 mm is not only material; check punching capacity and scrap policy
Bmax (rolling direction)1.7–1.9 T at rated voltageSets physical core size for a given kVA; higher B shrinks the core but tightens marginsAsk where the mill expects you to operate: “design B” as a band, not one number
Core loss P1.5/50~0.7–1.2 W/kg for modern Hi-B gradesYour stack will be worse due to joints, burrs, and stress; add 10–20 % as a sanity checkUse the same test condition across vendors; treat unusually low numbers with skepticism and ask for test reports
Relative permeability µr at 1.7 TOften quoted >30 000 in rolling directionEffective µ of the stack may be 60–80 % of this once gaps and coatings are includedUse µ to screen out clearly inferior material; rely on stack testing to finalize supplier
Magnetizing current at rated B (typical)Single-phase: often 0.3–0.7 % of rated current for good designsSensitive to both steel quality and lamination finish / assemblyTreat big spreads between vendors as a process warning, not just a material difference
Stacking factor95–97 % for good CRGO stacksThe rest is air and coating; poor stacking factor inflates effective path length and lossesInclude a minimum stacking factor in the RFQ, not just the steel grade

*Ranges are indicative only and must be checked against the actual mill datasheet and your own design rules.


5. Why your measured B–H curve never matches the brochure

Even with the same steel, your measured magnetizing current or core loss will drift away from the “official” B–H curves. Main reasons:

  1. Stress from punching and bending Grain-oriented steel is very sensitive to mechanical stress; punching, bending and even clamping change domain structures and reduce permeability.
  2. Loss of domain refinement benefits Domain-refined CRGO shows lower loss and higher permeability, but repeated stress-relief annealing and rough handling can erase part of that benefit.
  3. Anisotropy and grain direction errors Magnetic properties in the transverse direction are much worse than along rolling; turning a lamination the wrong way in a limb or yoke can spoil stack µ in that region.
  4. Joint and gap design Step-lap joints reduce local saturation and loss, but only if lap step, overlap length and cutting tolerance are respected. Poor control opens the B–H loop locally and creates hot spots.
  5. Coating and stacking factor Extra-thick coating or burrs lower stacking factor and introduce more effective air gap. That shifts your whole operating point to higher H for the same B.

If you never see vendor test reports on actual lamination stacks, only on bare steel, you are missing the most important part.


6. A simple workflow: engineer + purchasing read the same B–H data

You do not need a complex routine. A short checklist that both engineering and purchasing can use is usually enough.

Step 1 – Lock the reference condition

  • Pick one reference: for example P1.5/50 and B–H curve up to 1.8 T at 50 Hz
  • Ask every supplier to provide data in that exact form, with test method and standard noted

This removes half the confusion.

Step 2 – Plot your design point on each B–H curve

  • Put your nominal B and over-excitation B (say 110–120 % voltage) on the vendor curve
  • Note the corresponding H and estimate magnetizing current
  • Flag any steel where your maximum B is already very close to saturation knee

Purchasing does not need to do the math; they just need a simple “OK / tight / risky” tag from the design team.

Step 3 – Compare loss curves across the operating band

Instead of only P1.5/50, ask for loss versus B up to your maximum flux. Then, for each candidate steel:

  • Check loss at nominal B
  • Check loss at over-excitation B
  • Ask whether these values are “guaranteed maximum” or “typical”

Sometimes a steel with slightly higher datasheet loss at 1.5 T behaves better in the 1.6–1.7 T band where your core actually runs.

Step 4 – Ask for stack-level test results

For at least one reference core size, ask the lamination supplier to provide:

  • No-load loss and magnetizing current at rated voltage
  • Measured stacking factor
  • Photos or drawings of the actual step-lap pattern and limb build

This tells you more about their punching, deburring and assembly than any isolated B–H curve.

Step 5 – Freeze a “data sheet for stacks”, not just for steel

Once you choose a vendor, capture in your internal spec:

  • Grade and thickness
  • Target P1.5/50 and P1.7/50 limits
  • Minimum stacking factor
  • Joint type and cutting tolerances
  • Required stack-level loss and current for one or two reference designs

Then the purchasing team can run future RFQs against this spec without re-doing the magnetic homework each time.

Step-lap CRGO transformer core

7. FAQ: B–H curves, permeability and CRGO lamination stacks

Q1. Why do two mills with the same grade name show different B–H curves?

Grade labels like “M3” or “M5” have general meaning, but each mill has its own chemistry, texture control and thickness tolerance. Standards such as IS 3024 or EN 10107 define loss limits; mills then compete by going below those limits with their own process.

Q2. Can I compare permeability numbers directly between mills?

Only if the test conditions match. µ measured at 5000 A/m is not the same as µ inferred around 1.5 T. Always check:
Test standard (IEC 60404-2, JIS, ASTM)
H or B level where µ is calculated
Whether the sample was stress-relief annealed
If any of these differ, use the numbers as rough screening only.

Q3. Our measured core loss is 15 % higher than the datasheet. Is the steel bad?

Not necessarily. Differences of 10–20 % between Epstein test and finished core are common once joints, stress and stacking factor are included. If the gap is larger, check:
Burr height and deburring practice
Whether the assembly followed the intended step-lap pattern
Whether the stack went through correct stress-relief annealing

Q4. For purchasing, is lower loss always the right choice?

Not always. A slightly higher loss grade that is stable and widely available can be a safer choice than a niche low-loss grade with long lead times. Also consider:
Cost of extra copper and tank size if you choose a lower-grade steel
Stocking strategy and availability from multiple mills
Your typical operating point; if your cores run at 1.5 T, a steel optimized for 1.8–1.9 T might not pay back its cost

Q5. Can I mix CRGO grades within one core to save cost?

Technically possible, but it complicates prediction of magnetizing current and local heating. Mixing grades in yokes versus limbs shifts flux distribution and makes B–H behavior less predictable, especially during inrush. If you must mix, do it in a controlled, documented way and re-test losses on a full prototype.

Q6. Does lamination thickness matter if the B–H curve looks fine?

Yes. Eddy current loss scales with thickness squared, so going from 0.30 mm to 0.23 mm can cut eddy loss significantly at the same B and frequency. If your design runs at higher frequency, thickness often matters more than small differences in µ between similar grades.

Q7. What should go into an RFQ for CRGO lamination stacks, apart from price?

At minimum:
Steel grade and thickness
Target P1.5/50 (and P1.7/50 if relevant)
B–H curve up to your maximum B, with test standard stated
Minimum stacking factor and maximum burr height
Step-lap pattern and tolerance on overlap
Requirement for stack-level no-load loss and magnetizing current on a reference core
With that data in the RFQ, both engineers and buyers can read the same B–H curve and reach the same decision, without guessing what is hidden behind a single permeability number.

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Cheney is a dedicated Senior Application Engineer at Sino, with a strong passion for precision manufacturing. He holds a background in Mechanical Engineering and possesses extensive hands-on manufacturing experience. At Sino, Cheney focuses on optimizing lamination stack manufacturing processes and applying innovative techniques to achieve high-quality lamination stack products.

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